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Author Topic: War Office P-14 rear sight on Ross MIIIB  (Read 1162 times)
Barryj
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« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2017, 07:47:10 AM »

What we recognize as the Home Guard variant of the Mk lll has multiple unique features:-
1. There will be a serial on the barrel in the standard Commercial position, numbered in a small group within the Commercial serials.
2. The early sheet metal nosecap is fitted to a stock of the pre-1915 pattern.
3. The Mk lll Battlesight will show no Military proofs, and will have the early small aperature.
4. The stock will only show a stamped "H.G." on the right side, usually with the recipient organization added  eg: BofM(Bank of Montreal) C.Y. (County of York)
5. Walnut is generally found to be a better grade than Mil rifles.
6. Highly unlikely that any of the HG rifles went to England.
7. There will not be Milproofs found on the extractor, bolt doughnut or anywhere else. Ross proofs  on the barrel only.
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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2017, 03:39:56 PM »

With the obliteration of the Ross proofs and the over-stamping by Enfield, this would have been taken into British military service. Had it got to the UK privately, it would have been proofed in B'Ham or London, prior to being offered on the market.  For British Home Guard use, I would expect to see some form of unit designation.
But, be happy, it has seen war service in some form and there are not too many of the MIIIB's around! Smiley.
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« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2017, 04:13:18 AM »

It would be interesting to know exactly what size the chamber was.The LC stamping stood for "Large Cone",and was the standard [enlarged ] chamber from 1916 on for all rifles.The E stamped chambers are the ones that mimic 8x56 Austrian.The rest of the marks seem to indicate a barrel replacement at Enfield at some time.Its also had a more recent refinish which could explain the absence of stock marks.
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« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2017, 06:42:34 PM »

Highly unlikely that the barrel is a replacement.

The markings are normal for a MK IIIB. The C4969 is the serial # and it is in the correct location.

The butt should be marked MK IIIB butt may be covered with whatever is on the stock. (varnish or maybe a heavy coat of linseed oil?)
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« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2017, 07:19:29 AM »

Clearly NOT a Home Guard Mk lll as we know them. The HG rifles were a step up in quality from the Mil Mk lll's, and were all stamped with a Commercial serial, all with a "HG" prefix. That "B XXXX" was a Pommie addition; not RRCo. Other changes were the early stamped nosecaps ad the rear sight was a Commercial CanTool, with no proofmark and with a small aperature.
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